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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Voice Recorders (Robert Bragg)
   2. HS1?KING/mm. (Tanan Rangseeprom)
   3. Re: Voice Recorders (Don KB2YSI)
   4. DSLWP-B UHF Plan (???)
   5. Re: Tripod for Arrow (Stephen  E. Belter)
   6. Re: Tripod for Arrow (Dave Taylor)
   7. Re: Tripod for Arrow (W3AB/GEO)
   8. Re: Tripod for Arrow (Bob Liddy (K8BL))
   9. EN84/EN92/EN93 (aa8ch)
  10. Re: Tripod for Arrow (W3AB/GEO)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 07:45:54 -0600
From: Robert Bragg <airrj1@?????.???>
To: Robert Hynd <rfhynd@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Voice Recorders
Message-ID:
<CAJ9ASBG56EpkOWXe17Pa6FN+f50=M8XVHGZ8HRbRdLnCYTijwg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

The Sony PX Series ICDPX370.  I have been using it for a year now and it
has worked very well for me.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 6:10 AM Robert Hynd via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> What voice recorders, currently available, are members using for their
> portable ops?
>
> Bob N5URL
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 20:50:20 +0700
From: Tanan Rangseeprom <nanrspm@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] HS1?KING/mm.
Message-ID:
<CAMw-yOXwuXhpZm45U9LrddPF4scEwxuzEgfhqLnKCQV_svzDTA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Dear AMSAT member

To mark the Coronation of King Vajiralongkorn Bodindradebayavarangkun (King
Rama X) from May 4 to May 6, 2019 the Radio Amateur Society of Thailand
under the Patronage of His Majesty the King (RAST) will be operating a
special event station from the Royal Thai Navy aircraft carrier, the Chakri
Narubet, in the Gulf of Thailand from May 3 to May 6 using the callsign
HS1?KING/mm.

This station will be making QSOs in the 40, 20, 15 and 10 metre HF bands,
on 2 metres VHF and also using amateur radio satellites, including the
Es'hail 2 / QO-100 satellite.

Consequently, the May meeting of RAST will be postponed to the second
Sunday of the month, and will take place on Sunday May 12 at Sena Place
Hotel when applications to take the upcoming Intermediate Class examination
will be available

As usual all RAST members are welcome to attend this meeting and hopefully
they will be able to have a QSO with HS1?KING/mm.

Sincere 73,

Tony Waltham, HS0ZDX
RAST Vice-President
RAST English-language website: https://www.qsl.net/rast/


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 09:51:39 -0400
From: Don KB2YSI <kb2ysi@?????.???>
To: Robert Bragg <airrj1@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Voice Recorders
Message-ID:
<CAAJiE8NYPd6WrUurq2jSbCdFruRKODkdHuU3GArG21dB6BXmkw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I have tried a stand-alone recorder but keep falling back to the one in the
D74A. I'm also happier with 2 radio setup then recorder+D72... I'm
certainly the minority in this.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 09:47 Robert Bragg via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
wrote:

> The Sony PX Series ICDPX370.  I have been using it for a year now and it
> has worked very well for me.
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 6:10 AM Robert Hynd via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > What voice recorders, currently available, are members using for their
> > portable ops?
> >
> > Bob N5URL
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 22:34:45 +0800 (CST)
From: ??? <wmc_jx@???.???>
To: "amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] DSLWP-B UHF Plan
Message-ID: <3014fe7f.13cdb.16a54eb90c1.Coremail.wmc_jx@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GBK

Hi OMs,


Here is the DSLWP-B UHF plan for the following days:


UTC 26 Apr 06:30 to 08:30
UTC 28 Apr 00:00 to 02:00



GMSK and JT4G will be on both 435.4 and 436.4.


SSDV album: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/pics-b.html

Online JT4G telemetry forwarder:
http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/jt4g_forwarder.html
JT4G telemetry display:
http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/jt4g.html
GMSK telemetry: http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/dashboard/pages_en/telemetry-b.html



VY TNX & 73!


Wei BG2BHC



--

WEI Mingchuan


Research Center of Satellite Technology
Harbin Institute of Technology
mobile: +86-189-4501-5242
e-mail: wmc_jx@???.???? bg2bhc@?????.???










































































































































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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 20:24:32 +0000
From: "Stephen  E. Belter" <seb@??????.???>
To: W3AB/GEO <w3ab@?????.???>, "amsat-bb@?????.????
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tripod for Arrow
Message-ID: <6C28EE56-32B6-4B70-847B-11EE4F1A0F6E@??????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

No, the AMSAT-BB removes file attachments.

In general, you can include hyperlinks (URL's) to webpages, Twitter posts,
or Dropbox locations.

73, Steve N9IP
--
Steve Belter, seb@??????.???



?On 4/25/19, 8:13 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb-bounces@?????.??? on behalf of amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

    Can files be attached?

    ?___
    Sent from my two way wrist watch
    73 de W3AB/GEO?

    On Apr 24, 2019, 12:58, at 12:58, KE6BLR Robert via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
    >Here is a link to a photo of the Arrow on the Amazon tripod:
    >
    >https://twitter.com/MachaleRobert/status/1121138773394255872
    >
    >On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB <
    >amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
    >
    >>  There have already been a lot of good comments on the list on why
    >> handheld antennas work a lot better if you can manage it, and I'm
    >> definitely in that camp. My experience with my home station (an Elk
    >on a
    >> tripod in the attic with an azimuth-only TV rotator and a fixed
    >elevation
    >> of about 18 degrees) also corroborates this, as I find that
    >mismatched
    >> elevation makes very little difference, but mismatched polarization
    >makes a
    >> huge difference.
    >>
    >> When I was confined to a fixed location, one trick that I've found
    >helped
    >> is to suspend the tip of the antenna to bear part of its weight. In
    >my back
    >> yard, I have strung up some horizontal (non-conductive) lines that
    >are at
    >> about the right height for me to hold the Arrow horizontal with my
    >arm
    >> extended and the tip of the antenna resting on the line, with line
    >"hooked"
    >> on the forward-most element. This saves a lot of fatigue on those
    >long
    >> portions of the pass when the elevation angle is low, provides added
    >height
    >> to reduce the workable elevation angle, and enables almost complete
    >freedom
    >> of rotation for polarization. I've used this approach with both the
    >Elk and
    >> the Arrow to good effect. It does require a little more practice and
    >> attention with the Arrow due to the crossed geometry, but it was
    >certainly
    >> very workable. I have the lines strung out in three directions
    >optimized
    >> for different pass geometries, which was more useful for the Arrow
    >than the
    >> Elk. I don't use them much any more since I got over my fear of being
    >> "outed" and started operating in full view of the public.
    >>
    >>
    >> Operating completely pedestrian-portable is also very handy if you
    >have to
    >> move during the pass to clear obstructions or distance yourself from
    >> (audio) noise sources. Operating writing-hand-free can be very
    >doable, even
    >> without VOX. I hold the antenna with one hand, and leave the other
    >hand
    >> free for tuning, logging in real time, pressing the earpiece PTT
    >switch,
    >> and occasionally holding an umbrella.
    >>
    >>
    >> 73, Ryan AI6DO
    >> _______________________________________________
    >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
    >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
    >Opinions
    >> expressed
    >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
    >of
    >> AMSAT-NA.
    >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
    >program!
    >> Subscription settings:
    >https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
    >>
    >_______________________________________________
    >Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
    >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
    >Opinions expressed
    >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
    >of AMSAT-NA.
    >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
    >program!
    >Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
    _______________________________________________
    Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
    to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
    are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
    Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
    Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 16:45:17 -0400
From: Dave Taylor <ariss.w8aas@?????.???>
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tripod for Arrow
Message-ID: <D6E96147-0F43-44A9-B738-A9CADD9DDBF1@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

I made a simple antenna mount from a broken camera tripod (no platform on
top) and a few pieces of PVC.  The plastic just press-fits together and
drops over the tripod shaft, so I have az, el, and polarity rotation at very
little expense.  The antenna boom fits through the PVC T-fitting before the
elements are attached, making the antenna balanced as well.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0kjwtig9tyd7vds/ARROW%20mount.JPG?dl=0

Dave, W8AAS

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 14:13:25 -0700
From: W3AB/GEO <w3ab@?????.???>
To: "Stephen  E. Belter" <seb@??????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tripod for Arrow
Message-ID: <da180504-0376-481f-9aca-394b7d906414@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I received it with the attachment.

?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?

On Apr 25, 2019, 13:24, at 13:24, "Stephen  E. Belter" <seb@??????.???> wrote:
>No, the AMSAT-BB removes file attachments.
>
>In general, you can include hyperlinks (URL's) to webpages, Twitter
>posts, or Dropbox locations.
>
>73, Steve N9IP
>--
>Steve Belter, seb@??????.???
>
>
>
>?On 4/25/19, 8:13 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB"
><amsat-bb-bounces@?????.??? on behalf of amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>    Can files be attached?
>
>    ?___
>    Sent from my two way wrist watch
>    73 de W3AB/GEO?
>
>On Apr 24, 2019, 12:58, at 12:58, KE6BLR Robert via AMSAT-BB
><amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>    >Here is a link to a photo of the Arrow on the Amazon tripod:
>    >
>    >https://twitter.com/MachaleRobert/status/1121138773394255872
>    >
>    >On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB <
>    >amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>    >
>  >>  There have already been a lot of good comments on the list on why
>   >> handheld antennas work a lot better if you can manage it, and I'm
> >> definitely in that camp. My experience with my home station (an Elk
>    >on a
>    >> tripod in the attic with an azimuth-only TV rotator and a fixed
>    >elevation
>    >> of about 18 degrees) also corroborates this, as I find that
>    >mismatched
> >> elevation makes very little difference, but mismatched polarization
>    >makes a
>    >> huge difference.
>    >>
>  >> When I was confined to a fixed location, one trick that I've found
>    >helped
> >> is to suspend the tip of the antenna to bear part of its weight. In
>    >my back
>  >> yard, I have strung up some horizontal (non-conductive) lines that
>    >are at
>  >> about the right height for me to hold the Arrow horizontal with my
>    >arm
>  >> extended and the tip of the antenna resting on the line, with line
>    >"hooked"
>   >> on the forward-most element. This saves a lot of fatigue on those
>    >long
>>> portions of the pass when the elevation angle is low, provides added
>    >height
> >> to reduce the workable elevation angle, and enables almost complete
>    >freedom
> >> of rotation for polarization. I've used this approach with both the
>    >Elk and
>>> the Arrow to good effect. It does require a little more practice and
>    >> attention with the Arrow due to the crossed geometry, but it was
>    >certainly
>    >> very workable. I have the lines strung out in three directions
>    >optimized
>  >> for different pass geometries, which was more useful for the Arrow
>    >than the
>>> Elk. I don't use them much any more since I got over my fear of
>being
>    >> "outed" and started operating in full view of the public.
>    >>
>    >>
>  >> Operating completely pedestrian-portable is also very handy if you
>    >have to
>>> move during the pass to clear obstructions or distance yourself from
>    >> (audio) noise sources. Operating writing-hand-free can be very
>    >doable, even
>  >> without VOX. I hold the antenna with one hand, and leave the other
>    >hand
>    >> free for tuning, logging in real time, pressing the earpiece PTT
>    >switch,
>    >> and occasionally holding an umbrella.
>    >>
>    >>
>    >> 73, Ryan AI6DO
>    >> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>available
>   >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>    >Opinions
>    >> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>views
>    >of
>    >> AMSAT-NA.
>   >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>    >program!
>    >> Subscription settings:
>    >https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>    >>
>    >_______________________________________________
> >Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>    >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>    >Opinions expressed
> >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>    >of AMSAT-NA.
>    >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>    >program!
>>Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>    _______________________________________________
>  Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>Opinions expressed
>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>of AMSAT-NA.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


------------------------------

Message: 8
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 21:22:52 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Bob Liddy (K8BL)" <k8bl@?????????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tripod for Arrow
Message-ID: <1009352300.626383.1556227372556@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 Geo,
I didn't see an attachment.? Do you mean the Link?
Bob? K8BL
    On Thursday, April 25, 2019, 5:13:56 PM EDT, W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

 I received it with the attachment.

?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?

On Apr 25, 2019, 13:24, at 13:24, "Stephen? E. Belter" <seb@??????.???> wrote:
>No, the AMSAT-BB removes file attachments.?
>
>In general, you can include hyperlinks (URL's) to webpages, Twitter
>posts, or Dropbox locations.
>
>73, Steve N9IP
>--
>Steve Belter, seb@??????.???
>
>
>
>?On 4/25/19, 8:13 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB"
><amsat-bb-bounces@?????.??? on behalf of amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
>? ? Can files be attached?
>? ?
>? ? ?___
>? ? Sent from my two way wrist watch
>? ? 73 de W3AB/GEO?
>? ?
>On Apr 24, 2019, 12:58, at 12:58, KE6BLR Robert via AMSAT-BB
><amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>? ? >Here is a link to a photo of the Arrow on the Amazon tripod:
>? ? >
>? ? >https://twitter.com/MachaleRobert/status/1121138773394255872
>? ? >
>? ? >On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB <
>? ? >amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>? ? >
>? >>? There have already been a lot of good comments on the list on why
>? >> handheld antennas work a lot better if you can manage it, and I'm
> >> definitely in that camp. My experience with my home station (an Elk
>? ? >on a
>? ? >> tripod in the attic with an azimuth-only TV rotator and a fixed
>? ? >elevation
>? ? >> of about 18 degrees) also corroborates this, as I find that
>? ? >mismatched
> >> elevation makes very little difference, but mismatched polarization
>? ? >makes a
>? ? >> huge difference.
>? ? >>
>? >> When I was confined to a fixed location, one trick that I've found
>? ? >helped
> >> is to suspend the tip of the antenna to bear part of its weight. In
>? ? >my back
>? >> yard, I have strung up some horizontal (non-conductive) lines that
>? ? >are at
>? >> about the right height for me to hold the Arrow horizontal with my
>? ? >arm
>? >> extended and the tip of the antenna resting on the line, with line
>? ? >"hooked"
>? >> on the forward-most element. This saves a lot of fatigue on those
>? ? >long
>>> portions of the pass when the elevation angle is low, provides added
>? ? >height
> >> to reduce the workable elevation angle, and enables almost complete
>? ? >freedom
> >> of rotation for polarization. I've used this approach with both the
>? ? >Elk and
>>> the Arrow to good effect. It does require a little more practice and
>? ? >> attention with the Arrow due to the crossed geometry, but it was
>? ? >certainly
>? ? >> very workable. I have the lines strung out in three directions
>? ? >optimized
>? >> for different pass geometries, which was more useful for the Arrow
>? ? >than the
>>> Elk. I don't use them much any more since I got over my fear of
>being
>? ? >> "outed" and started operating in full view of the public.
>? ? >>
>? ? >>
>? >> Operating completely pedestrian-portable is also very handy if you
>? ? >have to
>>> move during the pass to clear obstructions or distance yourself from
>? ? >> (audio) noise sources. Operating writing-hand-free can be very
>? ? >doable, even
>? >> without VOX. I hold the antenna with one hand, and leave the other
>? ? >hand
>? ? >> free for tuning, logging in real time, pressing the earpiece PTT
>? ? >switch,
>? ? >> and occasionally holding an umbrella.
>? ? >>
>? ? >>
>? ? >> 73, Ryan AI6DO
>? ? >> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>available
>? >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>? ? >Opinions
>? ? >> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>views
>? ? >of
>? ? >> AMSAT-NA.
>? >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>? ? >program!
>? ? >> Subscription settings:
>? ? >https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>? ? >>
>? ? >_______________________________________________
> >Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>? ? >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>? ? >Opinions expressed
> >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>? ? >of AMSAT-NA.
>? ? >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>? ? >program!
>>Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>? ? _______________________________________________
>? Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>Opinions expressed
>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>of AMSAT-NA.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>program!
> Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>? ?
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: https://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 21:26:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: aa8ch <aa8ch@???.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] EN84/EN92/EN93
Message-ID: <744541351.536407.1556227581319@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi!?Ops AA8CH and WW8W are planning?to activate EN84 Saturday afternoon
April 27 and EN92/EN93 Sunday morning/afternoon April 28.? ?QSL to
LOTW!?Hope to hear anyone who needs these grids.?73Chris AA8CH

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 14:30:36 -0700
From: W3AB/GEO <w3ab@?????.???>
To: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@?????????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Tripod for Arrow
Message-ID: <ca9716d7-5ad0-41f7-a958-1b875e86ec1d@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I guess I didn't. What I saw was direct to me, not through the BB.

?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?

On Apr 25, 2019, 14:25, at 14:25, "Bob Liddy (K8BL) via AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
> Geo,
>I didn't see an attachment.? Do you mean the Link?
>Bob? K8BL
>On Thursday, April 25, 2019, 5:13:56 PM EDT, W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB
><amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> I received it with the attachment.
>
>?___
>Sent from my two way wrist watch
>73 de W3AB/GEO?
>
>On Apr 25, 2019, 13:24, at 13:24, "Stephen? E. Belter" <seb@??????.???>
>wrote:
>>No, the AMSAT-BB removes file attachments.?
>>
>>In general, you can include hyperlinks (URL's) to webpages, Twitter
>>posts, or Dropbox locations.
>>
>>73, Steve N9IP
>>--
>>Steve Belter, seb@??????.???
>>
>>
>>
>>?On 4/25/19, 8:13 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of W3AB/GEO via AMSAT-BB"
>><amsat-bb-bounces@?????.??? on behalf of amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>>? ? Can files be attached?
>>? ?
>>? ? ?___
>>? ? Sent from my two way wrist watch
>>? ? 73 de W3AB/GEO?
>>? ?
>>On Apr 24, 2019, 12:58, at 12:58, KE6BLR Robert via AMSAT-BB
>><amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>? ? >Here is a link to a photo of the Arrow on the Amazon tripod:
>>? ? >
>>? ? >https://twitter.com/MachaleRobert/status/1121138773394255872
>>? ? >
>>? ? >On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB <
>>? ? >amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>>? ? >
>>? >>? There have already been a lot of good comments on the list on
>why
>>? >> handheld antennas work a lot better if you can manage it, and I'm
>> >> definitely in that camp. My experience with my home station (an
>Elk
>>? ? >on a
>>? ? >> tripod in the attic with an azimuth-only TV rotator and a fixed
>>? ? >elevation
>>? ? >> of about 18 degrees) also corroborates this, as I find that
>>? ? >mismatched
>> >> elevation makes very little difference, but mismatched
>polarization
>>? ? >makes a
>>? ? >> huge difference.
>>? ? >>
>>? >> When I was confined to a fixed location, one trick that I've
>found
>>? ? >helped
>> >> is to suspend the tip of the antenna to bear part of its weight.
>In
>>? ? >my back
>>? >> yard, I have strung up some horizontal (non-conductive) lines
>that
>>? ? >are at
>>? >> about the right height for me to hold the Arrow horizontal with
>my
>>? ? >arm
>>? >> extended and the tip of the antenna resting on the line, with
>line
>>? ? >"hooked"
>>? >> on the forward-most element. This saves a lot of fatigue on those
>>? ? >long
>>>> portions of the pass when the elevation angle is low, provides
>added
>>? ? >height
>> >> to reduce the workable elevation angle, and enables almost
>complete
>>? ? >freedom
>> >> of rotation for polarization. I've used this approach with both
>the
>>? ? >Elk and
>>>> the Arrow to good effect. It does require a little more practice
>and
>>? ? >> attention with the Arrow due to the crossed geometry, but it
>was
>>? ? >certainly
>>? ? >> very workable. I have the lines strung out in three directions
>>? ? >optimized
>>? >> for different pass geometries, which was more useful for the
>Arrow
>>? ? >than the
>>>> Elk. I don't use them much any more since I got over my fear of
>>being
>>? ? >> "outed" and started operating in full view of the public.
>>? ? >>
>>? ? >>
>>? >> Operating completely pedestrian-portable is also very handy if
>you
>>? ? >have to
>>>> move during the pass to clear obstructions or distance yourself
>from
>>? ? >> (audio) noise sources. Operating writing-hand-free can be very
>>? ? >doable, even
>>? >> without VOX. I hold the antenna with one hand, and leave the
>other
>>? ? >hand
>>? ? >> free for tuning, logging in real time, pressing the earpiece
>PTT
>>? ? >switch,
>>? ? >> and occasionally holding an umbrella.
>>? ? >>
>>? ? >>
>>? ? >> 73, Ryan AI6DO
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